Christian Coulson Ghosts

[jencoulson]

Wow, that was truly amazing, although I find it a bit creepy. Christian the Guardian Angel... I love Stephen King novels. My parents think I'm insane, as I'm only 14, but wow...I think Pet Sematary and Firestarter are my favorites. Anyhow, I don't think I would like to meet a ghost, even if it were Christian. I dunno, it'd just give me the wig.

[ausaims]

I used to read Stephen King novels all the time when I was younger, but not as much lately. My favourites were "The Green Mile", "It" and "Needless Things."

[Sampaguita]

For some reason, this discussion is reminding me of that one song by Sting that I briefly mentioned on another thread-- "Every Breath You Take." I'll leave my questions about that song to the other board, but wouldn't it be freaky if someone covered that song and made a music video?-- With Christian Coulson starring in it? They could get the director of Eminem's video "Stan" and kinda use Mandragora's "haunting" premise as the underlying story of the video. Now whether the lyrics are malicious or comforting, I'll leave you to interpret. HOWEVER, for the purposes of this video, I'll interpret the lyrics as both creepy and comforting.

In case you're wondering which song I'm talking about, I'll post the lyrics here-- BTW, Puff Daddy/ P Diddy/ Puffy sampled part of the song in his tribute to Biggy Smalls.

Lyrics:

Every breath you take
Every move you make
Every bond you break
Every step you take
I'll be watching you

Every single day
Every word you say
Every game you play
Every night you stay
I'll be watching you

O can't you see
You belong to me
How my poor heart aches with every step you take

Every move you make
Every vow you break
Every smile you fake
Every claim you stake
I'll be watching you

Since you've gone I been lost without a trace
I dream at night I can only see your face
I look around but it's you I can't replace
I keep crying baby please

Every move you make
Every vow you break
Every smile you fake
Every claim you stake
I'll be watching you

[Mandragora]

One comment or, say, observation about The Police/ Sting music, their lyrics are sad... but the tune is upbeat! ;D I love the lyrics of this The Police song called "Scylla and Charybdis", and Sting's "When We Dance", "Every Little Thing She Does is Magic" and "King of Pain", though.

Stephen King... wierdly enough, I can never seem to get the hang of reading him, though I love " The Green Mile", my one and only Stephen King book. Probably because the first King novel I read was "Insomnia", and it quite almost put me to sleep, I don't know.... maybe because it's about this bunch of old people who are starting to see, uh, death.

I saw "It" as a kid, and I loved it. It's one of those scary childhood movies

There's this novel my sis bought yesterday (she bought two fictions why I had to buy that stupid marketing book for my thesis--- augh), and I am not so sure if you guys have heard of this, "I am a Believer" by a certain Jessica Adams. The premise goes that this guy's girlfriend dies, and then she starts to haunt him to push him to the girl she 'suggests' he ends up with.

The writing was funny though, I read half of it last night, but when I found out WHO her dead girlfriend's pushing him to, I had to stop. It became predictable all of a sudden, so I checked the last page, and voila, they live happily ever after. It's also fatalistic in theme, and I am not in this phase where I, er, 'believe'---- in terms of love and relationships crap, anyways.

Is the lack of an object of affection for almost two years make one jaded about affection and relationships? I am starting to think that I agree with what John Cage (Ally McBeal) said about love... it should REALLY hit you in the head.

At this point I consider Christian as a ghost in a cybernetic way, if you know what I mean... he is non-existent in my real world, he is in my head, I (also) see him in whatever wonderful literature I am reading, I see him move in the music I listen to, and logging in around here is my personal seance... oh, and who do I see? The rest of the cult

Ach, I didn't get to log on for only a few days, and well, it's nice to be around here contacting ghosts and such again

[lizifer]

Mandragora said:

I saw "It" as a kid, and I loved it. It's one of those scary childhood movies

that movie really s**t me up, seriously. i watched it once when i was a kid, never again.

[MsPoet]

I don't like scary movies.
And on the topic of the song "Every Breath You Take" I distinctly remember being sick of that song, and when that year's New Year's Eve rolled around, they were playing a year's countdown on the radio, and when it rolled around to #1, it was *that* song, and I thought Geez, why can't it be something else. And years later I heard something about it being sung as if from the view of a stalker, and I thought, Yeah, it IS a stalker! lol

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lol
Donna

[Mandragora]

OOOPPPS, correction, it's not "Scylla and Charybdis", it's "Wrapped Around Your Finger"... I have this sick habit of calling songs with improper titles, ie Tori Amos' "Hey Jupiter" to "Jups", and Led Zep's "Thank You" as "MY Wedding Song"...

Speaking of stalking, I did some stalking for my friend via prank phone calls to this guys she was into to, and I introduced myself to this guy as "Scylla"... and he was like, "Oh wow, what a beautiful name!"... But then that was years ago, I am not so sure if I can stalk anymore!

Oh well, I did do something like that a couple of years ago where I snailmailed this poem to this 'coward dude' as a last resort (yeah, how desperate) under a mysterious name... I am not so sure if I am his prime suspect, but the mistake was that he was telling his friends about it (including me), and he was so ever arrogant! I wanted to wring his neck!

I think, the moral of the story is, if you want to stalk someone, SCARE the wits out of him instead, not flatter him. I just cannot wait to drive somebody MAD, hehe

[Sampaguita]

Yeah, it is about a stalker-- one of the reasons that I brought it up

In my opinion, there are a few different kinds of stalkers. 1) the really creepy kind 2) the kind that have an uncanny capacity to disarm the object of their "stalking" 3) the stalkers that aren't really stalkers but just happen to always be around OR the ones that have ligitimate reasons for following you... 4) ghosts

If I were to intentionally stalk someone, I'd do it as a ghost... either through a vindictive urge to make the person feel guilty; to comfort them; or out of an undying and unrequited sense of romantic love...

However, as I am very much alive, I don't think that's possible. I don't stalk people unless you really do count category 3.

I've been stalked-- the creepy kind... it's part of what's driving one of the stories that I'm writing right now.

[Mandragora]

I am not so sure if I had ever been stalked before though I had received weird messages from my beeper years ago, and now my celphone

I am quite torn with the idea of being 'mysteriously' stalked, like weird messages, shadowing... or being downright frank. It's quite romantic, when you really think about it, but it can be a headache--- especially if the one stalking you is not your type at all.

Being haunted is another thing. When I was younger, the death of River Phoenix made that much an impact on me, it almost felt like haunted. Well, I didn't exactly have a crush on River, but I found him really talented, and it was like there was this strange affinity with him, especially when he played Chris Chambers in "Stand by Me". When I found out he died as Chris, as mentioned by the older Gordie Lachance (played by the younger Wil Wheaton), and then River Phoenix died, it was a bit too much for me.

I am not so sure if that was creepy at all, but we held a seance before, and the 'ghost' we caught, he said his name was 'River', and had something to tell me for everyone to see. I nearly went hysterical.

[Sampaguita]

Funny how you don't count it as "stalking" when it's someone that you actually like. Haunted-- perhaps. Pursued-- fine. Graced with the presence-- of course. Stalked-- no, never!

But when it's someone who makes your skin crawl it is, of course, creepy and disgusting... and there's really no other way to describe it but "stalking."

I've been seriously stalked twice. When I was 15 by a guy who looked like one of those child predators (I met him in church, ironically). Then over the past year by some smarmy guy I once thought of as a friend. (For those of you that remember-- "the face of evil.")

If I'd been Tom Riddle or Harry Potter, I've probably have been protected by my pet snakes.

Hmm... Speaking of... Why doesn't Harry ever talk to snakes anymore?

[Mandragora]

Regarding Harry talking to snakes... hm, i think the problem is that since CoS it has been established that snakes are not that good a creature. It's quite unfair, I love snakes, though sometimes, when I go mountain climbing, I get paranoid! ;D I have a neighbor who used to have one, and I used to play with it (it's not a venomous snake though, and the mouth is taped), but watching it molt and engulf a mice is amazing.

I guess I also got a bit afraid of snakes at first because of that frigging picture in "The Little Prince".... a hat! A HAT! And for all we know it's an elephant swallowed by a boa constrictor! But when you really think about it, a serpent symbolizes knowledge though in the Old Testament it IS like temptation... I don't know, that part of Genesis is NOT a favorite, it's like there's something wrong how it is expressed.

Knowledge can be dangerous, yes, but... aren't we supposed to think for ourselves? Augh, am getting off-topic here.

[Sampaguita]

Yeah, Biblically the snake is painted as completely evil. But that's not entirely the serpent's fault.

Augh. I can't get any of the characters I've come across out of my mind. (Barty Crouch, Henry Winter [TSH], Tom Riddle, Satan and Eve, etc.)

You know it's just occurred to me that Tom/Voldemort is a lot like Julian Morrow (TSH-- again!). He's a sort of Svengali corrupting/enlightening the minds of impressionable and brilliant youth.

[ausaims]

I was just thinking: CC could play the ghost in LP Hartley's "The visitor from down under." In English lit in year eleven we had to read an anthology of English ghost stories, and that's one I actually remember from it.

[ausaims]

Also in regards to the comments about stalking: last year I had a stalker. He was doing his Masters in Law and he wanted my help with an essay cos he thought I was smart (whatever!) and he just kept ringing me and stuff saying we should do this, or that, and I was like I've got a boyfriend leave me alone. And instead I still got at least two calls a day (mobile and home phones) and a few hang up ones too. It lasted for about a month and it freaked me out. Everytime I was walking around the campus at Uni I was paranoid I'd see him. Sometimes I did and he'd come rushing over and want to talk, or say let's go get coffee or something and I'd have to make up an excuse about going to the library, class, on my way home etc. Yuk. I am SO glad he finally got the message.

[Sampaguita]

I AM NOT GOING CRAZY!!!!! He's real!!!!!!!

For those of you that don't remember how this thread started... I was having flashes of a guy who looked a lot like CC as Henry Winter... I was seeing him in the English Dept. Library... throughout the Humanities Building... and around the Arts building. But only briefly and for a few seconds... usually when it was dark... or getting dark.

I thought he was a ghost or a figment of my imagination. But today, I found out that he's real. And he was looking very much like a character that I wrote-- how he was dressed, the way he walked, and his manner as he talked to his friends. He stood static for at least half an hour, so I was very able to ascertain his actual existence. But that didn't explain why, a couple of weeks ago, he was always dressed in English suits and carried an umbrella or a cane... OR why I only saw him at dusk or at night.

So, I ran into the main vestibule of the Arts building and talked to my friend who works at the front desk-- "OMG, who's the hot guy in the cargos and the light blue button-down?!!!" It turns out that he's one of the actors (though no one could tell me his name). And moments before, he'd been asking about me.

He's got one up on me... HE, at least, KNOWS my name. Anyways, he was curious about me because I'd run like an idiot whenever I saw him in the halls of the Humanities building. I really did think that he was a spectre-- who could blame me? He looked as if he was out of the 1940s and always had this dark, brooding, almost menacing look in his eyes. AND that time I fell asleep in the English Library-- I opened my eyes to see him looming over me while I was groggy... and after I blinked, he was gone. Now that I know that he's real, that's easily explained. One tends to blink longer when they're groggy and isn't really aware of their surroundings. But that didn't explain why he was dressed like friggin HENRY WINTER!

But I found out it was because of some play he was rehearsing for... and he was simply trying to get a feel for the character.

I have to meet this guy... because he gave me a heart-attack today. It seems his REAL clothes reveal his real manner and whatnot. And he's like my character... If I could just learn his name.

So, I throw this question out to you guys. It seems that the two of us are bound to hear about each other through our mutual acquaintances-- How do I go about finding out about him without it getting back to him? (I really wish Mike hadn't forgotten his name.)

Gosh, I apologizing for sounding like I'm 14 again... But this is pretty crazy.