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Dec 28, 2002 22:01:14 GMT -5
Post by Mandragora on Dec 28, 2002 22:01:14 GMT -5
I've only seen him in CoS but I am convinced enough. He's really good. I am quite curious about his Salieri portrayal... augh, means of access! T*ng y na!
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Dec 28, 2002 22:07:52 GMT -5
Post by Sampaguita on Dec 28, 2002 22:07:52 GMT -5
Dr. Marie Axton... she is supposed to be supervising the Cambridge Amatuer Dramatic Club and the theatre associated with it. That's probably the most kosher way to go. Also probably the most successful, too.
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Dec 29, 2002 1:02:24 GMT -5
Post by on Dec 29, 2002 1:02:24 GMT -5
Holy cricket, you saw him playing Salieri? What a scoop! Give away details! How did it happen? You were cambridge student or what? Do you know anyone who knows CC? Thanx for review!
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Dec 29, 2002 1:49:22 GMT -5
Post by Sampaguita on Dec 29, 2002 1:49:22 GMT -5
No, it's my misfortune not to be a Cambridge student or alumnus... There are, however, people that I'd like to study with over there. *ahem* J. Fleming *ahem* I saw the performance of Amadeus on a videotape in my mentor/prof's office. He got the tape through friends/colleagues at Cambridge a year/ year-and-a-half ago who knew that he'd gotten another Sundance Fellowship and wanted to draw his attention to certain performers who could do the screenplay he was working on justice. Among these friends/colleagues of his, are some old mentors of CC. And he himself is mildly acquainted with Mr. Coulson. How it happened... I had stormed into the office stressed and pissed-off about identity politics and an unethical ethnography that was being conducted on my ethnic community at my university. My prof, wanted to kill two birds with one stone, thought it would take my mind off of things, and as I am both a scholar of Literature and Music & Culture, he sat me down to watch it with him in his office. Needless to say, I was amazed. So when I heard that he was playing Riddle , I had to see it.
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Dec 29, 2002 7:08:41 GMT -5
Post by on Dec 29, 2002 7:08:41 GMT -5
So did you discuss his perf with these mentors? I wonder what they think about him as an actor and as a person. It`s still weird that so many people see great potential but industry people, his talent agency and media don`t. To star on HP and get zero coverage despite being everything they want from a rising star - great looks and talent - it`s simply a mystery. I still don`t get it. other actors are everywhere despite getting even less screen time. Karl Urban who plays Eomer in TTT (about same screen time but far less important for the story than Tom Riddle, not to mention a role easy to pull off in your sleep) is everywhere, his PR people made a deal with People mag to put him on the Sexiest Man Alive list before TTT was released although no one has seen him in anything and therefore couldn`t vote, they call him Kiwi Brad Pitt which is darn stupid and embarrassing but such PR crap opens doors to better roles. But maybe CC isn`t a sell-out who agrees to such cringe-worthy titles and lists. Viggo Mortensen is like that, it took so long before Hollywood gave him a starring role like Aragorn because he hates Sexiest Man Alive lists and crap and kissing up to every jerk and such. Is CC Viggo in making? Hope not cause in that case his star would start to shine when he`s 44, 20 years from now. Hollywood, don`t make the same mistake! BTW, both CC and Viggo are Libras.
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Dec 29, 2002 8:35:08 GMT -5
Post by lizifer on Dec 29, 2002 8:35:08 GMT -5
What I absolutely hate about CoS is cutting out Tom speeches in Diary and Chamber as if stupid director was affraid fans would be bored. Well for his information Basilisk was more boring than fantastically intense dialog Tom and Harry had. I wish it went for ages. It was so d*mn good and I bet CC would`ve been brilliant doing Ginny`s voice "Oh Tom, I think I`m going insane,Oh Tom,etc". His performance was top-notch he hit all the right notes. for example, when he says "I have nowhere to go" he simply states the fact, he doesn`t fall into trap of getting pathetic and begging. Tom doesn`t beg and plead, he just states the fact. Another good one is when he tells hagrid he`d be expelled. You can see sympathy on his face! "Monsters do not make good pets, Hagrid." You can see that he is sorry for framing him for it wasn`t his original plan(but they threatened to close Hogwarts so he had no choice). F*cking brilliant. And finally CHamber. You can see he`s repressing his anger, is about to xplode but still in control, not losing his cool yet. And the priceless "What are you doing?". That one is phenomenal - he asks it very normally but something in his voice tells you that in the back of head head red alert button has just been switched on. And than he fully realizes that Harry`s gonna send him to hell. Perfect. especially when you compare this character with his work on FS where he`s completely different. Jolly`s even differently pissed off from Tom. too true romana Sampaguita, ur lucky to have seen his performance in salieri i'd love to see it!
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Dec 29, 2002 12:24:19 GMT -5
Post by Mandragora on Dec 29, 2002 12:24:19 GMT -5
Libra men are known to undergo some form of melancholic discontent in times of frustration. Hang in there Christian It's better not to be a sellout, but then I have to admit that I want to see more of him. He's like an ocean on the silverscreen, though you cannot see him yet, you can smell the salt in the breeze. Presence looming everywhere... Ach, here I go again...
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Dec 29, 2002 16:08:17 GMT -5
Post by Sampaguita on Dec 29, 2002 16:08:17 GMT -5
Yes, I've talked to a couple of his old mentors, but I don't recall ever discussing his performance with them... This was almost a year ago, afterall. I know his name came up, though. You see, I keep wanting to do postmodern and post-colonial readings of "the dead white guys"-- trying to apply minority discourse to the work [and achieve an interdisciplinary feel in what can be a "narrow" discipline]. Anyways, one of them said that I reminded them of a student of theirs... CC. In terms of what, I didn't ask. So either CC is a really eager, outspoken, and meticulously passionate student OR he's into postmodernism, minority discourse, and post-colonial studies... Or maybe he's both a [popular] music & literature scholar.
What I do know of him as these people's student, leads me to believe that if he ever recommended me to them, they'd take me. [Excuse my bad grammar, please.]
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Dec 29, 2002 16:26:56 GMT -5
Post by lizifer on Dec 29, 2002 16:26:56 GMT -5
thats cool they said u reminded them of cc, i'd take that as a big compliment
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Dec 29, 2002 18:22:31 GMT -5
Post by MsPoet on Dec 29, 2002 18:22:31 GMT -5
They might very well have meant you reminded them of his being passionate.....I mean, my God.....maybe it's because I'm an actor---maybe not---but logic tells me that only an incredibly passionate person could change personas so massively between roles----or, if you consider his performance in COS *alone*---only a passionate person could have done what he did as Tom Riddle.
Donna
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Dec 29, 2002 21:17:23 GMT -5
Post by Sampaguita on Dec 29, 2002 21:17:23 GMT -5
Well, the next time I see Dr. "C" [don't have the heart attack yet girls, that "C" doesn't stand for Coulson] I'll ask him what he meant, but as I haven't seen him since this last May, I'm not holding my breath. There's a summer program I'm applying for, and I very well might see him within the next year. I suppose I should e-mail him.
My guess always was that it was the eager passion and my wanting to cut to the center of any issue that they were referring to. I want to believe that CC is into minority discourse, though.
Or, perhaps... after seeing his interview on CBBC Newsround, maybe it's my attitude and opinions about popular music-- remember, he did laugh when Bonnie Wright was discussing her taste in music. (Which leads me to believe that he has definate opinions on what hip-hop is and isn't... an interesting discussion that I'd love to have with any of you.)
I took it as a compliment before, but after I've seen him in a couple of interviews, I take it as even more of a compliment. I guess I'm pretty articulate and ardent like him ;D Esta bien! I remember that Dr. C talked him up so much that I wanted to meet him. I guess that's out of the question now that his career is climbing.
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Dec 29, 2002 23:15:49 GMT -5
Post by on Dec 29, 2002 23:15:49 GMT -5
I noticed that CC doesn`t like bright guy/smart guy/intellectual image. Maybe he thinks this image = boring and doesn`t want to be considered boring person. The way he got defensive when Lizzo suggested he might be Ravenclaw because of his Uni background, he was so "NO!No way!" But he is smart, I like his comments on spiders that kids don`t have problem with them but you develope distaste when you get older. Interesting POV. Also, he has strong opinion about that some roles should be played by young actors. Which is great cause there`s this discrimination that at certain age you ain`t mature enough to play this or that which is crap. He doesn`t put up with such crap which is admirable.
BTW, what`s Richard II about? You know Shakespeare play. I can`t stand Shakespeare. CC says that although it sounds lame he likes doing Shakespeare and would love to play Richard II who should be played by young actor in his opinion.
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Dec 29, 2002 23:34:43 GMT -5
Post by Sampaguita on Dec 29, 2002 23:34:43 GMT -5
Richard II is pretty f-ing complicated. But the gist of it is disposing of the king for fun and profit. To summarize it would take a while... and keeping the geneology straight would be a daunting task. I'm up to it, if you really want it, but you'd have to ask... it's not appearing in this posting.
As for Christian and his "intellectual" image, I don't think that he dislikes it, really. I just think that he wants to be known as MORE than a stodgy academic. I know that's what I'M currently fighting... which is why I'm couching myself in POPULAR music and popular culture. I'm not one to be carted away with my books... and I THINK that's what he was trying to say... He doesn't want to be seen as two dimensional. Doesn't want to be forgetable.
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Jan 1, 2003 11:04:02 GMT -5
Post by Mandragora on Jan 1, 2003 11:04:02 GMT -5
I think Christian simply doesn't want to be stereotyped. I guess that is pretty much a fight because actors get to be stereotyped as this and that, especially when the glamour of it comes along.
It can be simply put that Christian is an intelligent man who loves to act and has opinions on a lot of things. I quite remembered what he said in a CoS premier when he said something like 'nobody knows who I am', makes me think that he was stating it as factual and not really to gas up the whole mystery chaacter he's portraying, which is BS.
I quite imagine him in-front of his computer, checking these forums regularly and laughing at the postings, and maybe the idea of his finally speaking up around here has passed his mind, but then maybe he is rational and is having second and third and so on thoughts.
Something to the effect of Howard Roark's (The Fountainhed by Ayn Rand) view on being an architect: "I don't want to build in order to have clients, I want to have clients in order to build". Maybe what he is thinking is he wants to have fans in order to have projects where he can act, but then attracting some fan base would be self-promotional and something Christian is probably not comfortable with. Maybe he's like "Do I really have to bloody pose for that bloody pictorial for that bloody magazine? Why can't I just bloody study my bloody script and bloody act?"
He probably wants to be seen as two-dimensional in a sense he's just a normal guy with a job he loves to do, and hís three-dimensionality is something the rest of the world can only catch when he's onstage or onscreen.
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Jan 1, 2003 21:53:14 GMT -5
Post by jencoulson on Jan 1, 2003 21:53:14 GMT -5
He's already kinda opposed to L.A. You know the half-sneer on his face when L.A. was mentioned in the interview. And I understand why he'd rather be in Gryffindor or Slytherin, because they're the houses most talked about in the books, and the G and S characters are more developed. I, however, consider him to be a Ravenclaw, definitely.
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