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Post by lizifer on Jan 6, 2003 7:31:52 GMT -5
what ever happend to Robbie Williams?i never hear of him anymore!!!!(not that i want to...sort of) robbie was great in take that and when he 1st started with his solo stuff, but since then he's gone down-hill! |
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Post by Sampaguita on Jan 6, 2003 13:53:22 GMT -5
Oh, lock Robbie Williams away somewhere where I never have to hear him again... There was a high point in his career that he should have retired-- but this sick struggling so late in his career is just sad. I'd rather watch George Michael struggle to get another good foothold in today's pop music industry. (Actually, he had a couple pretty good songs... I'm quite fond of "One More Try"-- but that's a shameful fact I shouldn't be mentioning  let's just forget I said that.) Some pop artists should just retire before they start making themselves look ridiculous. Christina Aguilera-- for example. Besides degrading herself as a woman, she's misappropriating certain aspects of culture and tapping into some negative racial stereotypes in that horrible video "Dirty." Not a very good song either... hookless, consisting of two notes and not very well produced. Oh and speaking of hookless blunders... JC Chasez's new song sucks while he's singing but is great when you actually hear the drumline samples. |
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Post by Mandragora on Jan 6, 2003 15:41:48 GMT -5
I also hated that POD song "Youth of a Nation." For the Hours music question: If Mr. Coulson used music to submerse himself into the character, I doubt that he was listening to 20s jazz. His character was based in Ireland, I believe. I don't think that he was trying to get into the "roaring 20s" mindset... at the time, that was uniquely American. I think that IF he was listening to anything in preparing for that role, it would be something bleak sounding and minimalistic... perhaps 20th century classical of the minimalist movement. Probably Philip Glass... if not that, perhaps Sarah McLachlan's album "Surfacing." AUGH, I hate POD and those clones that does a very bad fusion of rock and hiphop... I cannot bear to listen to that Limp Bizkit-Linkin Park.. . I don't know, I was told that it was actually Korn who 'discovered' Fred Durst and his cohorts, I have no idea if Korn had some rotten kernels in their system when they actually had anything to do with that genesis of that genre. Oh, right, his character was WITH Virginia Woolf. I start to think of F. Scott Fitzgerald when somebody mentions 20s, that interestingly amusing Jazz Age. So that puts him in the time of James Joyce, with that Parnell and stuff? I can't think of any appropriate Irish music to listen to (maybe not The Corrs), but then I have this Celtic album of a certain Hollinea, but that's not so 20s, it sounds more of a Wiccan background  Is there such thing as an Irish jazz? |
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Post by lizifer on Jan 6, 2003 17:37:54 GMT -5
Oh and speaking of hookless blunders... JC Chasez's new song sucks while he's singing but is great when you actually hear the drumline samples. i love jc's new song, great beat and he has a great voice! |
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Post by Sampaguita on Jan 6, 2003 19:12:14 GMT -5
i love jc's new song, great beat and he has a great voice! His voice is wasted on this song. During the verses [if you can call them that] he sings five notes within short intervals of each other... basically consisting of the first five notes of the diatonic scale-- for you "Sound of Music" fans, it's basically do re mi fa and sol. The melody in succession being sol x3 fa x2/ re x3 mi fa/ sol x3 fa x2/ re x3 do x2... so he's kinda singing the first five pitches of the scale in succession. Then he moves on to a minor triad during the chorus. (do ME sol) The only thing really good about the song is the beat AFTER it changes from the generic 8-beat (found on most keyboards and synthesizers) to the polyrhythmic stuff that the drumline samples provide. Justin's solo stuff is better, I have to say. The beats on "Like I love you" are more interesting with a syncopation that I can't quite pin down (his melodic motives and vocals are annoying in the song though). And there's a kind of beautiful simplicity to "Cry Me a River"-- it's minimalistic yet layered with the samples of chant music... I think I'd like to hear an instrument taking harmony in a higher range... perhaps in thirds above the melody... ::slaps self::  No more shop talk today!!! Must stop talking music theory  What I mean to say is, Justin is, thusfar, sounding better than JC because he's choosing his producers better. I don't completely hate his new single... I like the drumline samples. |
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Post by CC fan on Jan 6, 2003 22:33:36 GMT -5
::slaps self:: No more shop talk today!!! Must stop talking music theory What I mean to say is, Justin is, thusfar, sounding better than JC because he's choosing his producers better. I don't completely hate his new single... I like the drumline samples. I totally understand where you're coming from! I do the same thing with pop music. Funny, "Cry Me A River" sounds like a rip-off of Aknaten (sp?). If you ever want to talk shop, I'm here lurking. For the chick that was asking about the 20s jazz thingy, I don't think that he would. He would probably be listening to fiddle music for that part. |
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Post by Mandragora on Jan 7, 2003 3:30:19 GMT -5
The sound of fiddle against the Irish backdrop.  I could imagine chewing turnips and stacking hay. Oh wait, that's "Little House on the Praire"! ;D Yeah, fiddle and accordion and Irish stout. By the way, I have the latest musical discovery: Badly Drawn Boy, a one-man band, something like The Primitive Radio Gods. David Gray, I believe, also works that way, I have this friend who comments that Gray's electronic drums irritates him. He (Gray) should've used a real percussion set or maybe at least a sessionist, if he couldn't play. I like the beat of "Kangaroo" though. |
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Post by lizifer on Jan 7, 2003 17:16:46 GMT -5
i don't think "cry me a river" was a good choice for justin's next single, there are other songs on his album that have more single potential.
"blowin' me up" may not show of jc's vocal range/voice as much as some of nsync's songs did but it's still a good song, has much more single potential than "cry me a river" in my opinion.
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Post by jencoulson on Jan 7, 2003 17:18:26 GMT -5
All my friends think I'm insane, but I've never liked N'Sync. They're very talented, but I don't like the way their music is going. It's like they're trying too hard to stay popular. Then again, I'm sort of prejudiced against pop music.
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Post by lizifer on Jan 7, 2003 17:25:47 GMT -5
i never used to like them as i was a complete backstreet boys fan, so refused to like any other boy-band untill i actually bothered to listen to their music!
anyway why we're on the subject of jc i'm reminded of a quote by him which i believe to be very true...
"the beauty of music is that everyone hears it in their own way and every song u hear leaves an impression on u that alters the way u hear everything from that point on."
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Post by Sampaguita on Jan 7, 2003 17:29:42 GMT -5
Sure, the single's got more potential for popularity... I can't believe I'm debating about the musical value of JC and Justin.
Tsk. I should be reading "Paradise Lost" and "Moll Flanders" but this is much more fun than doing homework... though, I really should catch up on my Milton.
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Post by lizifer on Jan 7, 2003 17:31:45 GMT -5
i have 2 assignments to do for monday but yes this is a lot more fun ;D
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Post by Mandragora on Jan 7, 2003 22:55:41 GMT -5
Augh, speaking of homework, I haven't done my force profiling of this hypothetical bridge.
I am not a boyband girl so I can't say anything about those groups. Oh well.
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Post by cheesy_badgers on Jan 8, 2003 13:27:06 GMT -5
I was especially dissappointed when he mentioned Coldplay (can you say alternapop?). Coldplay are SO not pop!!!! I have both their albums and omg, it's so far from being pop, try a more realistic category of indie/mild rock. Glad CC likes em, they are a top band. I can't stand Ms Dynamite, can I just say, when she sings, what is with the hands???! |
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Post by lizifer on Jan 8, 2003 16:57:30 GMT -5
I can't stand Ms Dynamite, can I just say, when she sings, what is with the hands???! lmao i wondered that too! |
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let's just forget I said that.)
