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Post by quietfan on Jan 25, 2003 15:02:17 GMT -5
Do you get different versions of the book in America?  Yes, unfortunately we do-and this leads often to some plot holes that don't exist in other versions. The biggest change, of course, was Philosopher's to Sorceror's Stone; obviously, someone over in Scholastic didn't think anyone had ever heard of the Philosopher's Stone legend over here, and decided to make more "kid-friendly". Harumph, and they wonder why American child score fifty percent lower than most european children.... As a Folklorist, some of the changes are downright appalling-and laughable at times. There is a list out there, but I can't remember where. As for the Snape being a vampire, that'd be highly unlikely. First off, vampires genreally don't bleed and heal very quickly- so the idea of the bloody leg in the first book (after he meets up with Fluffy) would be nigh impossible. Would you like me to go on with the rest of the standard indicators for Vampires (vampyre)? Such as hairy palms, overly keen sense of smell, black nails, etc? Again, folklorists across the world would like to point out some, er, problems with the books' creatures. But we are smarter than that, and shut up. |
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Post by MsPoet on Jan 25, 2003 18:27:30 GMT -5
I've seen that list somewhere---and I read that the greatest differences in the HP books were between HPPS and HPSS; however as each book was then published, fewer and fewer changes were made.
What I particularly liked about the COS movie was that they said "jumper" instead of "sweater"---they didn't change it for North America. ;D
Donna
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Post by Mandragora on Jan 25, 2003 21:42:12 GMT -5
Good point quietfan re Snape  Our version here is the USA version, it is also called "The Sorcerer's Stone" not "The Philosopher's Stone". I am a little curious on the change of names in some versions/translations... I think in one European version, Tom has the name of "Elvis"? Is that right? If they translated his name HERE, it would be Tomas Mabolo Bugtungan --- well, that's the actual translation of 'riddle', actually it's bugtong-bugtungan. And 'mabolo' is a tree, hahaha ;D Yeahyeah, too literal I think Snape's vampiric look has nothing to do much with his possibility of being a real vampire. And vampires, I believe, is a Dark Arts creatre, and having another Lupin-like case would make it redundant. But then I am curious too how Snape 'spied' for Dumbledore... and I don't think it's enough he just posed as a Deatheater. |
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Post by MsPoet on Jan 26, 2003 2:19:53 GMT -5
But then I am curious too how Snape 'spied' for Dumbledore... and I don't think it's enough he just posed as a Deatheater. Yes....Dumbledore told (Harry, I think it was) that he trusted Snape without question, because of something (specific) that Snape had done for him....we still don't know what that was. |
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Post by Angelamyte on Jan 26, 2003 13:56:29 GMT -5
Yes....Dumbledore told (Harry, I think it was) that he trusted Snape without question, because of something (specific) that Snape had done for him....we still don't know what that was. but should be cleared up in the next book.. i was reading some theories on Mugglenet or something..but anyways, some of them said that when Dumblore tells Harry that he has something to tell him that he should've told 5 years ago is actually at the end of the book...because, technically, 5 years would be finished then, but not at any other point in the book... |
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Post by lizifer on Jan 26, 2003 16:13:25 GMT -5
yeah i read that theory angela. i hope it doesnt happen right at the end of the book tho  |
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Post by Angelamyte on Jan 26, 2003 17:09:33 GMT -5
knowing JKR..That could be a possibility ;D
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Post by ausaims on Jan 26, 2003 19:25:33 GMT -5
It wouldn't surprise me if it happened right at the end....  And wouldn't it be even worse if that's how the book ended and we don't even find out?!?! As for the changes in the books for America, I'm glad we don't get it changed, because we wouldn't say "sweater" here, we say "jumper" like in the UK. As for the title change, I always wondered why they did that! |
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Post by MsPoet on Jan 27, 2003 0:23:19 GMT -5
OMG....if Dumbledore sits Harry down at the end of the book......ie, on the LAST PAGE of the freakin' book......omg.....and then we're left off there....omg........there will be even more rioting for Book 6.......just watch:
--In ToysRUs's across the world, stuffed animals will be tossed down not only in their own section, but in the action figure section as well.
--out of frustration, amazon.com will be receiving emails entitled "Do you know if your server is running?"
--The runts, geeks, wallflowers, etc across the world will truly gain in stature via their assurance that they know what Dumbledore has to say---because their uncle's British cousin's best friend's doctor's nephew is an editor for Bloomsbury.
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Post by Mandragora on Jan 27, 2003 5:49:18 GMT -5
"Jumpers" that I know of, are the 'overalls' ;D
Aw come on, JKR shouldn't be cruel and leave us hanging like THAT. We have to at least resolve more mysteries.
Hmm... have you guys considred that Ron has a relative who is an accountant? I guess that angle gave a speculation that Harry and Ron are related, through Lily, the fact that Lily too had red hair.
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Post by MsPoet on Jan 27, 2003 13:56:29 GMT -5
Hmm... have you guys considred that Ron has a relative who is an accountant? I guess that angle gave a speculation that Harry and Ron are related, through Lily, the fact that Lily too had red hair. Umm.....I don't get it. Does Harry have any relative(s) as accountants? Donna |
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Post by Mandragora on Jan 27, 2003 22:32:17 GMT -5
Umm.....I don't get it. Does Harry have any relative(s) as accountants? Donna That's possible. I mean, he's lived with Muggles, and Lily was a Muggle. It was just some correlation. Quite far-out, but then it's fiction. There's still that room where that can be logical. But then, Ron and Harry RELATED? Well. |
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Post by Sampaguita on Jan 29, 2003 19:34:42 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind Ron and Harry being related. It would mean that Harry and Ginny won't wind up together-- and that's a REALLY good thing. I can't stand the idea of those two together... I really can't. Because, to me, it feels like they really are related.
Oh, and I'm getting annoyed by some of the death theories. Ron and 'Mione are certainly not going to die. Harry gets a lot of his power from them. I think that the same is true of Dumbledore.
I can see how it could be Hagrid. But I don't want to have to endure anymore Percy speculations (I LOVE Percy) or Ginny speculations. My heart will truly break if I have to watch Gin or Perce die.
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Post by MsPoet on Jan 29, 2003 20:14:22 GMT -5
Here in the US (and I assume all of North America ?), we call certain types of overalls "jumpers," but a "jumper" in England is what we call a "sweater." Which is why I was glad they didn't change the term in the movie.
Donna
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Post by lizifer on Jan 30, 2003 6:55:17 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind Ron and Harry being related. It would mean that Harry and Ginny won't wind up together-- and that's a REALLY good thing. I can't stand the idea of those two together... I really can't. Because, to me, it feels like they really are related. lol i'm with u on that one, anything to stop ginny/harry!!! |
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Christian, do you like our future?
And wouldn't it be even worse if that's how the book ended and we don't even find out?!?!
